Star Wars: Destiny (Corey Konieczka, Lukas Litzsinger)

[pan_satyros]

Tak mnie zastanawia jedna rzecz związana z boosterami:

każdy z nich zawiera pięć losowych kart i jedną kostkę (zawsze dopasowaną do którejś karty ze środka).

A co z pozostałymi kartami? Czy one będą pasować do kostek z podstawek?

Z tego co zrozumiałem to nie wszystkie karty będą posiadały swoją kość. Może reszta kart w boosterze będzie właśnie tymi bezkostkowymi?

to by było zbyt piękne jak na CCG / TCG

[Karit]

to by było zbyt piękne jak na CCG / TCG

Trochę dziwią mnie proporcje - 1 kostka i 5 kart. W takim boosterze do Dice Masters były 2 kostki i 2 karty.
Z drugiej strony np. w takim Magicu zawsze jest Land i po jakimś czasie można sobie nimi mieszkanie wytapetować...

Jak opublikują oficjalna instrukcje to się zobaczy.

[Darboh]

Sugeruje czytać dokładnie

W każdej talii znajdzie się aż trzydzieści różnych kart wydarzeń, ulepszeń i wsparć, które pomogą przychylić szalę zwycięstwa. Wydarzenia, takie jak Najlepszą obroną…, to taktyczne, jednorazowe karty, które działają w momencie wystawienia ich z ręki. Karty ulepszeń można zagrywać na swoje postaci, na stałe wzmacniając ich zdolności bojowe lub defensywne, a wsparcia to specjalny rodzaj kart, które odkładane są na bok i zapewniają własną kostkę i/lub efekt.

Wsparcia i ulepszenia to, poza postaciami, jedyne karty, które mogą mieć przypisaną kostkę.

http://galakta.pl/star-wars-przeznaczenie-zapowiedz/

Albo każdy mądry i nikt nie przeczytał

[Karit]

Albo każdy mądry i nikt nie przeczytał

Panie, cała wieś czytała i nikt nie ogarnął

Dzięki za info, czekam niecierpliwie na polski debiut

[karawanken]

Rozumiem, że starter jest dla jednego gracza i gdybym chciał pograć z żoną muszę kupić dwa? Nie orientuję się w ogóle w grach kolekcjonerskich

[Darboh]

Rozumiem, że starter jest dla jednego gracza i gdybym chciał pograć z żoną muszę kupić dwa? Nie orientuję się w ogóle w grach kolekcjonerskich

Różnie to bywa ale w tym przypadku tak.


Team Covenant już zagrali na GenConie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uufCn6a ... e=youtu.be

[AkitaInu]

Rozumiem, że starter jest dla jednego gracza i gdybym chciał pograć z żoną muszę kupić dwa? Nie orientuję się w ogóle w grach kolekcjonerskich

Różnie to bywa ale w tym przypadku tak.


Team Covenant już zagrali na GenConie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uufCn6a ... e=youtu.be

I jak to wypada? Jakies wniosi, spostrzeżenia? youtube mi sie nie ładuje

[Darboh]

Ciężko mi oglądać z dzieciakiem na kolanach Nie mówiąc o pisaniu....
A powiem tylko że za grę odpowiedzialny jest gość który odpowiada za Inwazję, sukces Netrunnera i za Diskwarsy jeszcze i Runebounda (czy jak tam to szło). Czyli konkretny gość. Na forach pojawiły się różne głosy jakoby w FFG zawrzało, podobno pracownicy na Rededicie się skarżą na ten projekt że to Asmoode wymusiło na FFG ten produkt i teraz FFG ładuje w niego swoje główne zasoby.
Ogólnie kontrowersyjnie to wygląda.

Młody wrócił na kolana... i tyle z pisa

[AkitaInu]

Ciężko mi oglądać z dzieciakiem na kolanach Nie mówiąc o pisaniu....
A powiem tylko że za grę odpowiedzialny jest gość który odpowiada za Inwazję, sukces Netrunnera i za Diskwarsy jeszcze i Runebounda (czy jak tam to szło). Czyli konkretny gość. Na forach pojawiły się różne głosy jakoby w FFG zawrzało, podobno pracownicy na Rededicie się skarżą na ten projekt że to Asmoode wymusiło na FFG ten produkt i teraz FFG ładuje w niego swoje główne zasoby.
Ogólnie kontrowersyjnie to wygląda.

Młody wrócił na kolana... i tyle z pisa

Dzięki Ciekawe to wszystko. Musze pooglądać na spokojnie w domu.

[Darboh]

13 minut oglądnięte ale jeżeli ma mi się z czymś kojarzyć to z Ashes
Hajpa nie nakręcam, ale niegłupie

[karawanken]

No to będzie trzeba kupić te dwa startery

[Luboy]

Generalnie ciekawostka. Zobaczymy jak cenowo wyjdzie. Może faktycznie zamiast tego Ashes?

[Darboh]

Jeżeli kogoś interesuje instrukcja:

Spoiler:

Dice and Card Game

In Star Wars: Destiny, you and your opponent take control of your favorite Star Wars characters and battle each other for the fate of the galaxy. During the game, characters use lightsabers, blasters, and more in the form of dice. These powerful heroes and villains fight until only one team is left standing.

This rulesheet will teach you how to play the game. You can also find a tutorial video and an exampleof play at FantasyFlightGames.com/SWDestiny

Setup

Each player brings their own deck to the game. This starter set includes one deck that should be played against another starter. Both you and your opponent follow these steps to set up the game.

find your character cards and place them in front of you, alon with their dice. When using this starter, your characters are Kylo Ren and First Order Stormtrooper and you have 2 Kylo dice and 1 Stormtrooper die. (If your opponent has the Rey starter set, they will use Rey with 2 dice and Finn with 1 die). Set aside the rest of your dice for later.

Set your battlefield card (the Frozen Wastes) and your reference card aside faceup. Then shuffle your remaining 20 cards to form your deck. Draw 5 cards from your deck to form your hand. If you do not like any of these cards, you may shuffle any number of them back into your deck, and then redraw until you have 5 cards in hand.

Sort the various game tokens (damage, shields, and resourses) into piles near the play area. Then gain 2 resources and place them in front of you.

Roll your character dice and add up the values (the white numbers) rolled. If there is a tie, roll again. The player with the hiest total chooses which battlefield to fight on. The player whose battlefield is being used controls the battlefield and places it next to their deck. the player whose battlefield is not being used removes their battlefield from the game and gives 2 shields to their characters, distributed as they wish. After rolling, place all character dice on their matching cards.


Important! Ready and Exausted

Cards can be either ready (upright) or exausted (sideways). Whenever a card is played, it begins ready. When an ability or rule requires you to exaust a card, turn ir sideways. A exausted card cannot be exausted again.

Gameplay

In Star Wars: Destin, you and your opponent alternate taking turns. The player who controls the battlefield takes the first turn. During your turn, you may take one action. Almost everything you can do in the game is an action, from playing cards to rolling dice.

The differnt actions are listed below and described in detail later.

Play a card from you hand

Activate a character or support

Resolve your dice

Discard a card to reroll your dice

Use a card action

Claim the battlefield

If you do not want to take an action, you may pass. When both players pass consecutively, there is an upkeep phase to prepare for the next game round.

Important! Colors and Spotting

Each card belong to one of four colors, as seen on the card.

Blue: Blue represents the Force.

Red: Red represents Command.

Yellow: Yellow represents Rogue.

Gray: Gray represents everything else.

To use some cards, you must spot a character of a specific color. This means that youmust have at least one of those characters in play.

Important! Resources & Costs

You must spend resources equal to the cost of a card in order to play it. The cost is marked at the top left of each card. You gain two resourses each upkeep phase and can gain additional resources by rolling the resource symbol on your dice.

Actions

Play a Card From Your Hand

There are three types of cards you can play: events, upgrades, and supports. The card type is listed above the card's ability. To play a card, spend resources equal to its cost.

Playing an Event: Follow the card's instructions and the discard it to your discard pile. The discard pile is a faceup pile near your deck where you place your discarded cards.


Playing an upgrade: Attach the card to one of your characters be placing it below that character. Upgrades have repeatable effects and stay in play. Most upgrades come with an extra die, and, like characters, have the six sides of their die referenced on the left side of the card. When you play an upgrade that has a die, take the matching die from your set aside dice and place it on the character.

A character cannot have more than three upgrades. When you play an upgrade, you can choose to replace an upgrade that is already attached to that character. To do so, you only spend resources equal to the difference in cost between the two upgrades. Discard the upgrade you are replacing.

Playing a Support: Place the card on the table in front of you, next to your characters (but not attached to them). Supports have repeatable effects and stay in play. Some supports also have a die that comes with them; take the matching die and place it on that card.


Activate a Character or Support

Activating a character or support is how you roll its dice. To activate a character or support, it must be ready. Exaust that card and roll all of its dice. Put these dice in front of your characters. These dice are now in your dice pool and can be used on a future turn (see "Resolve our Dice" below). Characters always roll their character dice and thir upgrade dice when activated. Supports only roll their own dice into the dice pool when activated.

Resolve Your Dice

This action if how you use the dice in your dice pool. You may resolve any number of dice in your pool that have the same symbol, one at a time. After you resolve a die, it returns to the card that it came from.

Example: You tolled dice showing melee damage and range damage. For your next action you can resolve any number of the dice showing melee damage or any number of the dice showing ranged damage, but not both. Each differnt symbol represents its own action.

Each die symbol has a differnt effect. These effects are described blow. The side of the die usually has a value (the shite number) above its symbol that tells you how powerful it is. For example, 2 [MD] means you can deal 2 damage to a character, and 2 means you can give a character 2 shields.

Die Symbols

[MD] Melee Damage: Deal that much damage to any character.

[RD] Ranged Damage: Deal that much damage to any character.

Shield: Give any character that many shields (place shield tokens on it). A character connot have more than 3 shields.

[R] Resource: Gain that many resources.

[Dr] Disrupt: Your opponent loses that many resources.

[Dc] Discard: Discard that many random cards from your opponent's hand.

[F] Focus: Turn that many other dice in your pool to the side(s) of your choice.

[Sp] Special: Trigger the special ability marked by a [Sp] on that die's card. Specials never have a value.

[-] Blank: No effect. Blanks never have a value.


Modifiers and Resource Costs

Some dice hace one or more blue sides with a plus (+) before the value. Sides with a plus can only be resolved at the same time as another die in your pool that shows the same symbol without a plus. While resolving, the plus value is added to the other die to create a new value.

Example you roll a +2[RD] symbol. You also roll a 1[RD], so you can resolve the +2[RD]along with the 1[RD] for 3 ranged damage dealt to any on character. If you had not rolles the 1[RD] you could not have resolved the +2[RD] die.

Some die sides have a small resource icon [R] in a yellow box. To resolve the symbol on that side, you must first pay that many resources.

Example: You roll a 3[MD] symbol that also has a small 1[R] at the bottom. In order to deal 3 damage, you must spend 1 resource.

Damage, Shields, and Defeated Characters

Damage from a die, or a die resolved with modifies, must be dealt to a single character. When a character is dealt damage, track that damage using damage tokens. (Damage tokens come in quantities of 1s and 3s.) If the character has any shields, block 1 damage for each shield on the character. After a shiled blocks damage, remove the shield token from the character.

When a character has damage on it equal to its health, it is defeated. Remove all of its dice from the game (both its character dice and its upgrades), discard all upgrades attached to it, and remove the character card from the game. The character can no longer be activated, be the target of effects, or be spotted to play cards.

Discard a Card to Reroll Your Dice

Discard a card of your choice from your hand to reroll one or more dice in your pool. You must choose all the dice you want to reroll before rerolling.

Use a Card Action

Some support, upgrade, and character cards have special actions listed on them. These actions are preceded bt the word "Action" in bold. To resolve this action, follow the card's instructions.

Claim the Battlefield

Only one player can claim the battlefield each round. When you claim the battlefield, youmay immediately use its "Claim" ability. If you did not control it, take control of it be moving it next to your deck.

For the rest of this roud, you automatically pass all of your future actions. Your opponent continues taking actions until they pass, but they cannot claim the battlefield this round.

Important! Passing

If you do not want to take an action, you may pass. You do nothing, but retain the option to take an action after your opponent. After both players pass consecutively, procees to the upkeep phase.

Game Terms

There are a few important game terms that appear on cards. After reading this section, you'll be ready to play your first game! You can find more game terms and frewquently asked questions in the rules reference document on our website.

After... Use these abilities after something finishes occuring.

Before... Use these abilities immediately before something occurs.

Unblockable. Whenever damage is "unblockable" if cannot be blocked by shields (and thus does not remove any shields).

Unique. Unique cards have an asterisk (*) next to their title. You cannot have more than one copy of a unique card in play at a time.

Remove. When a die is removed, it is returned to tha character or support card it came from without being resolved. You can only remove dice that are in a player's dice pool.


Keywords

Keywords are shorthand for abilities that appear on multiple cards. Follow these rules when using those cards.

Guardian. Before one of your characters with Guardian activates, you may beal it damage equal to the value of a die showing damage ([MD] or {RD] in your opponent's pool. The remove that die showing the damage.

Redeploy. This keyword only appears on upgrades. After the attached character is defeated, you may immediately move this upgrade to any of your other charactes. The upgrade die moves to the new character card, even if it was in your dice pool.

Ambush. After playing a card with Ambush, you may immediately take one additional action.


Subtypes

Some cards have subtypes listed above the card;s ability, such as "Vehicle" or "Weapon." Subtypes have no inherent rules associated with them, but other cards (such as Finn) may reference them.

Customization



Although this starter deck provides a fun experiance, the game becomes more exiciting if you customize your deck using other cards and dice (sold seperately). Customizing alows you to choose your favorite charactes, upgrades, events, supports, and battlefield. Then you can test this combination of dice and cards against an opponent!

When customizing, each player needs a team of characters, a 30-card deck, 1 battlefield, and all dice corresponding to the chosen cards.

Building Your Team

You can choose up to 30 points of characters for your team. A character's point value is in the lower left corner of the card. To the right of this number is a box that reads "Hero" or "Villain." You must select either all hero characters or all villain charactersl you cannot mix the two.

You can have characters of the same color or differnt colors on your team.

You can select only one copy of each unique (*) character, but any number of copies of non-unique characters. Non-unique characters always use one die. Unique characters have two different point calues, seperated by a backslash (/). You may choose either the smaller point value to use one of that character's dice, or the larger value to use two of that character's dice.

Building Your Deck

the starter deck in this box has 20 cards, but a standard deck is exactly 30 cards. You can choose any cards to place in your deck with the following restrictings:

You cannot include more than two copies of the same card.

Each card is hero, villain, or neutral, as shown on the bottom of the cars. If you selected hero characters, you cannot have villain cards in your deck, and vice versa. Neutral cards can be included in any deck.

Blue, REd, and Yellow cards can only be included if you havw a character on your team of the matching color. Gray cards can be included in any deck.

You deck can contain events, upgrades, and support cards. Character cards and battlefields cannot be placed in your deck and do not count toward your 30 card limit.


Selecting a Battlefield

In addition to characters and a deck, you select 1 battlefield. Each player brings a battlefield to the game, and one of the players' battlefields will be used for each game.

Tutaj źródło: https://community.fantasyflightgames.co ... emo/page-5
Na wcześniejszej stronie tego wątku na tym forum są zdjęcia instrukcji.

Z ciekawostek cecegowatości. Max kopii w decku - 2. Ciekawie zrobili z kościami, np. zagrywasz Finn'a na stół wraz z jedną kością. Drugą kość możesz mu dograć jak zagrasz drugą kopię Finna.

W starterach wszystkie karty x1 i są dostępne tylko w starterach. Także trzeba od zrazu dwa. Cztery jak chcę z synem pograć w domu

[AkitaInu]

Jeżeli kogoś interesuje instrukcja:

Spoiler:

Dice and Card Game

In Star Wars: Destiny, you and your opponent take control of your favorite Star Wars characters and battle each other for the fate of the galaxy. During the game, characters use lightsabers, blasters, and more in the form of dice. These powerful heroes and villains fight until only one team is left standing.

This rulesheet will teach you how to play the game. You can also find a tutorial video and an exampleof play at FantasyFlightGames.com/SWDestiny

Setup

Each player brings their own deck to the game. This starter set includes one deck that should be played against another starter. Both you and your opponent follow these steps to set up the game.

find your character cards and place them in front of you, alon with their dice. When using this starter, your characters are Kylo Ren and First Order Stormtrooper and you have 2 Kylo dice and 1 Stormtrooper die. (If your opponent has the Rey starter set, they will use Rey with 2 dice and Finn with 1 die). Set aside the rest of your dice for later.

Set your battlefield card (the Frozen Wastes) and your reference card aside faceup. Then shuffle your remaining 20 cards to form your deck. Draw 5 cards from your deck to form your hand. If you do not like any of these cards, you may shuffle any number of them back into your deck, and then redraw until you have 5 cards in hand.

Sort the various game tokens (damage, shields, and resourses) into piles near the play area. Then gain 2 resources and place them in front of you.

Roll your character dice and add up the values (the white numbers) rolled. If there is a tie, roll again. The player with the hiest total chooses which battlefield to fight on. The player whose battlefield is being used controls the battlefield and places it next to their deck. the player whose battlefield is not being used removes their battlefield from the game and gives 2 shields to their characters, distributed as they wish. After rolling, place all character dice on their matching cards.


Important! Ready and Exausted

Cards can be either ready (upright) or exausted (sideways). Whenever a card is played, it begins ready. When an ability or rule requires you to exaust a card, turn ir sideways. A exausted card cannot be exausted again.

Gameplay

In Star Wars: Destin, you and your opponent alternate taking turns. The player who controls the battlefield takes the first turn. During your turn, you may take one action. Almost everything you can do in the game is an action, from playing cards to rolling dice.

The differnt actions are listed below and described in detail later.

Play a card from you hand

Activate a character or support

Resolve your dice

Discard a card to reroll your dice

Use a card action

Claim the battlefield

If you do not want to take an action, you may pass. When both players pass consecutively, there is an upkeep phase to prepare for the next game round.

Important! Colors and Spotting

Each card belong to one of four colors, as seen on the card.

Blue: Blue represents the Force.

Red: Red represents Command.

Yellow: Yellow represents Rogue.

Gray: Gray represents everything else.

To use some cards, you must spot a character of a specific color. This means that youmust have at least one of those characters in play.

Important! Resources & Costs

You must spend resources equal to the cost of a card in order to play it. The cost is marked at the top left of each card. You gain two resourses each upkeep phase and can gain additional resources by rolling the resource symbol on your dice.

Actions

Play a Card From Your Hand

There are three types of cards you can play: events, upgrades, and supports. The card type is listed above the card's ability. To play a card, spend resources equal to its cost.

Playing an Event: Follow the card's instructions and the discard it to your discard pile. The discard pile is a faceup pile near your deck where you place your discarded cards.


Playing an upgrade: Attach the card to one of your characters be placing it below that character. Upgrades have repeatable effects and stay in play. Most upgrades come with an extra die, and, like characters, have the six sides of their die referenced on the left side of the card. When you play an upgrade that has a die, take the matching die from your set aside dice and place it on the character.

A character cannot have more than three upgrades. When you play an upgrade, you can choose to replace an upgrade that is already attached to that character. To do so, you only spend resources equal to the difference in cost between the two upgrades. Discard the upgrade you are replacing.

Playing a Support: Place the card on the table in front of you, next to your characters (but not attached to them). Supports have repeatable effects and stay in play. Some supports also have a die that comes with them; take the matching die and place it on that card.


Activate a Character or Support

Activating a character or support is how you roll its dice. To activate a character or support, it must be ready. Exaust that card and roll all of its dice. Put these dice in front of your characters. These dice are now in your dice pool and can be used on a future turn (see "Resolve our Dice" below). Characters always roll their character dice and thir upgrade dice when activated. Supports only roll their own dice into the dice pool when activated.

Resolve Your Dice

This action if how you use the dice in your dice pool. You may resolve any number of dice in your pool that have the same symbol, one at a time. After you resolve a die, it returns to the card that it came from.

Example: You tolled dice showing melee damage and range damage. For your next action you can resolve any number of the dice showing melee damage or any number of the dice showing ranged damage, but not both. Each differnt symbol represents its own action.

Each die symbol has a differnt effect. These effects are described blow. The side of the die usually has a value (the shite number) above its symbol that tells you how powerful it is. For example, 2 [MD] means you can deal 2 damage to a character, and 2 means you can give a character 2 shields.

Die Symbols

[MD] Melee Damage: Deal that much damage to any character.

[RD] Ranged Damage: Deal that much damage to any character.

Shield: Give any character that many shields (place shield tokens on it). A character connot have more than 3 shields.

[R] Resource: Gain that many resources.

[Dr] Disrupt: Your opponent loses that many resources.

[Dc] Discard: Discard that many random cards from your opponent's hand.

[F] Focus: Turn that many other dice in your pool to the side(s) of your choice.

[Sp] Special: Trigger the special ability marked by a [Sp] on that die's card. Specials never have a value.

[-] Blank: No effect. Blanks never have a value.


Modifiers and Resource Costs

Some dice hace one or more blue sides with a plus (+) before the value. Sides with a plus can only be resolved at the same time as another die in your pool that shows the same symbol without a plus. While resolving, the plus value is added to the other die to create a new value.

Example you roll a +2[RD] symbol. You also roll a 1[RD], so you can resolve the +2[RD]along with the 1[RD] for 3 ranged damage dealt to any on character. If you had not rolles the 1[RD] you could not have resolved the +2[RD] die.

Some die sides have a small resource icon [R] in a yellow box. To resolve the symbol on that side, you must first pay that many resources.

Example: You roll a 3[MD] symbol that also has a small 1[R] at the bottom. In order to deal 3 damage, you must spend 1 resource.

Damage, Shields, and Defeated Characters

Damage from a die, or a die resolved with modifies, must be dealt to a single character. When a character is dealt damage, track that damage using damage tokens. (Damage tokens come in quantities of 1s and 3s.) If the character has any shields, block 1 damage for each shield on the character. After a shiled blocks damage, remove the shield token from the character.

When a character has damage on it equal to its health, it is defeated. Remove all of its dice from the game (both its character dice and its upgrades), discard all upgrades attached to it, and remove the character card from the game. The character can no longer be activated, be the target of effects, or be spotted to play cards.

Discard a Card to Reroll Your Dice

Discard a card of your choice from your hand to reroll one or more dice in your pool. You must choose all the dice you want to reroll before rerolling.

Use a Card Action

Some support, upgrade, and character cards have special actions listed on them. These actions are preceded bt the word "Action" in bold. To resolve this action, follow the card's instructions.

Claim the Battlefield

Only one player can claim the battlefield each round. When you claim the battlefield, youmay immediately use its "Claim" ability. If you did not control it, take control of it be moving it next to your deck.

For the rest of this roud, you automatically pass all of your future actions. Your opponent continues taking actions until they pass, but they cannot claim the battlefield this round.

Important! Passing

If you do not want to take an action, you may pass. You do nothing, but retain the option to take an action after your opponent. After both players pass consecutively, procees to the upkeep phase.

Game Terms

There are a few important game terms that appear on cards. After reading this section, you'll be ready to play your first game! You can find more game terms and frewquently asked questions in the rules reference document on our website.

After... Use these abilities after something finishes occuring.

Before... Use these abilities immediately before something occurs.

Unblockable. Whenever damage is "unblockable" if cannot be blocked by shields (and thus does not remove any shields).

Unique. Unique cards have an asterisk (*) next to their title. You cannot have more than one copy of a unique card in play at a time.

Remove. When a die is removed, it is returned to tha character or support card it came from without being resolved. You can only remove dice that are in a player's dice pool.


Keywords

Keywords are shorthand for abilities that appear on multiple cards. Follow these rules when using those cards.

Guardian. Before one of your characters with Guardian activates, you may beal it damage equal to the value of a die showing damage ([MD] or {RD] in your opponent's pool. The remove that die showing the damage.

Redeploy. This keyword only appears on upgrades. After the attached character is defeated, you may immediately move this upgrade to any of your other charactes. The upgrade die moves to the new character card, even if it was in your dice pool.

Ambush. After playing a card with Ambush, you may immediately take one additional action.


Subtypes

Some cards have subtypes listed above the card;s ability, such as "Vehicle" or "Weapon." Subtypes have no inherent rules associated with them, but other cards (such as Finn) may reference them.

Customization



Although this starter deck provides a fun experiance, the game becomes more exiciting if you customize your deck using other cards and dice (sold seperately). Customizing alows you to choose your favorite charactes, upgrades, events, supports, and battlefield. Then you can test this combination of dice and cards against an opponent!

When customizing, each player needs a team of characters, a 30-card deck, 1 battlefield, and all dice corresponding to the chosen cards.

Building Your Team

You can choose up to 30 points of characters for your team. A character's point value is in the lower left corner of the card. To the right of this number is a box that reads "Hero" or "Villain." You must select either all hero characters or all villain charactersl you cannot mix the two.

You can have characters of the same color or differnt colors on your team.

You can select only one copy of each unique (*) character, but any number of copies of non-unique characters. Non-unique characters always use one die. Unique characters have two different point calues, seperated by a backslash (/). You may choose either the smaller point value to use one of that character's dice, or the larger value to use two of that character's dice.

Building Your Deck

the starter deck in this box has 20 cards, but a standard deck is exactly 30 cards. You can choose any cards to place in your deck with the following restrictings:

You cannot include more than two copies of the same card.

Each card is hero, villain, or neutral, as shown on the bottom of the cars. If you selected hero characters, you cannot have villain cards in your deck, and vice versa. Neutral cards can be included in any deck.

Blue, REd, and Yellow cards can only be included if you havw a character on your team of the matching color. Gray cards can be included in any deck.

You deck can contain events, upgrades, and support cards. Character cards and battlefields cannot be placed in your deck and do not count toward your 30 card limit.


Selecting a Battlefield

In addition to characters and a deck, you select 1 battlefield. Each player brings a battlefield to the game, and one of the players' battlefields will be used for each game.

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Na wcześniejszej stronie tego wątku na tym forum są zdjęcia instrukcji.

Z ciekawostek cecegowatości. Max kopii w decku - 2. Ciekawie zrobili z kościami, np. zagrywasz Finn'a na stół wraz z jedną kością. Drugą kość możesz mu dograć jak zagrasz drugą kopię Finna.

W starterach wszystkie karty x1 i są dostępne tylko w starterach. Także trzeba od zrazu dwa. Cztery jak chcę z synem pograć w domu

Całkiem nienajgorzej Hmm w sumie fakt, jeżeli chcemy pokombinować z jakimiś ciekawszymi kartami to warto mieć dwa startery. Kostki są takie same w każdym starterze tak?

[Darboh]

Tak, takie same. Przynajmniej Finna będą dwie.

[AkitaInu]

Tak, takie same. Przynajmniej Finna będą dwie.

W teorii w boosterach też można znaleźć karty z seta startowego Więc w razie czego nie trzeba od razu dwóch kopii.

[Darboh]

Tak, takie same. Przynajmniej Finna będą dwie.

W teorii w boosterach też można znaleźć karty z seta startowego Więc w razie czego nie trzeba od razu dwóch kopii.

W teorii ale nie w SW:D Z pewnoscią jeżeli chodzi o postacie.

Jeszcze na temat rzadkości kart znalazłem:
UK Hero Neutral Villain Grand Total
Grey 3 2 6 3 14 Startery
Blue 50 2 4 1 57 Commony
Yellow 37 2 2 1 42 Uncommony
Green 27 8 4 5 44 Rary
Purple 11 3 0 3 17 Legendarne
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Grand Total 128 17 16 13 174

[bowmanek]

Ciekawy jestem polskich cen. Na stronie FFG zestaw podstawowy kosztuje 14,99$, zaś booster 2,99$. Dolar ma kurs około 3,85 zł. Ceny edycji PL są zazwyczaj troszkę niższe niż ENG. Zatem w sklepach typu Rebel będziemy mieli 49,90 za starter i 9,95 za booster. Dice master ma boosterki za 4,95, ale są tam 2 karty zamiast 5 i 2 kości w zdecydowanie niższej jakości w stosunku do 1 z boostera Destiny.

49,90 zł za 24 karty (w tym 2 bohaterów, pole bitwy i kartę pomocy) oraz 9 kostek. 9,95 zł za pięć kart i kostkę. W decku można mieć 30 kart, każda w dwóch egzemplarzach. W starterach i boosterach mamy po jednej sztuce. Żeby złożyć dwie w miarę sensowne talie, będzie trzeba dokupić kilka dodatków. Przeczytałem zasady (są nad wyraz proste - plus dla gry, będzie można łatwo wprowadzać nowych ludzi). Za te 100 złotych dostaniemy płatne demo, ale całkiem dobrze wprowadzające w grę.

Fragment z zapowiedzi Galakty

"Ograniczenia są tylko dwa: jedna talia może zawierać tylko karty Złoczyńców lub Bohaterów, a karty w talii muszą kolorami odpowiadać wybranym postaciom. Zarówno Bohaterowie, jak i Złoczyńcy są podzieleni na 3 różne frakcje: Moc, Dowodzenie i Łotrów."

Rozumiem zatem, że będzie można dowolnie łączyć ze sobą karty różnych frakcji, byle należały do "tych dobrych" bądź "tych złych".

Regrywalność na samej wersji demo będzie całkiem spora dzięki oparciu gry na kostkach. Dodatkowo dochodzi losowanie pola bitwy i wybieranie wartości punktowej bohatera (każdy ma dwie). Grami, również wykorzystującymi kostki, a które przychodzą mi do głowy, są Ashes i Summoner Wars. Ta pierwsza to raczej ciekawostka, druga ma ugruntowaną pozycję w Polsce, jednak dostarcza zupełnie innych wrażeń z rozgrywki, a kości mają w niej zdecydowanie mniejsze znaczenie. Jest też o wiele brzydsza (kij w mrowisko).

Oczywiście w tańszych sklepach, w których dodatkowo ma się zniżki będzie można zapewne dorwać starter za około 37 zł, a boster za mniej więcej 7. Tutaj ceny nie będą już tak straszne. Nie wiem jak z kampanią marketingową, ale w przypadku tej produkcji, sięgnąć po nią mogą nawet osoby niezainteresowane graniem, a chcące jedynie stworzyć kolekcję ładnych kart, a także ludzie "niegrający", przyciągnięci marką Gwiezdnych Wojen. Ci nie będą mieli żadnych zniżek i pierwsze zakupy zrobią raczej w droższych sklepach stacjonarnych, bądź internetowych (do dzisiaj pluję sobie w brodę, ile bym zaoszczędził, gdybym nie kupował w Rebelu).

Teraz nasuwa się pytanie, jak długo projekt przetrwa. Na świecie w 2017 roku wzrośnie zainteresowanie powiązanymi z nadchodzącym filmem produktami, także gra będzie miała ułatwiony start. Zresztą ruszy chwilę przed świątecznym szałem zakupów. To także duży plus. Dodatkowo wydanie jest po prostu piękne. Poza graczami, na zakup skuszą się również kolekcjonerzy. Kasa będzie płynęła. Tylko co z rodzimą wersją? To będzie pierwsza karcianka kolekcjonerska Galakty. Ogólnie nie wiem kiedy ostatnio ktoś wydał po Polsku grę w tym formacie wydawniczym. Tutaj nie będzie raczej mowy o DNŻ, bo mamy kości. Z gier LCG, tylko Inwazja dotrwała do końca. Władca Pierścieni wspomagany drukiem na życzenie jakoś żyje. Reszta poległa. W tym wypadku nie będzie możliwości "ratowania" gry. Prosty rachunek ekonomiczny pokaże czy się opłaca, czy się nie opłaca.

Hejtowana przez wielu Galakta ma jednak odwagę. Ciekawe, czy robią jakieś badania rynku? Mam wrażenie, że starają się zacząć możliwie każdy projekt i kontynuować go, dopóki jest rentowny. Arkham Horror LCG konkurencją dla Destiny (nie mogę zapamiętać polskiej nazwy) raczej nie będzie. Czeka nas ciekawy test możliwości rodzimego rynku. Gry planszowe przeżywają rozkwit. Okoliczności (marka, jakość wydawcy, doświadczenie projektantów, okres wydania) są bardzo sprzyjające. Ciekawe jak to się rozwinie. Czy Galakta da radę dotrzymać kroku wydaniu angielskiemu, czy też pierwszy druk będzie się walał po magazynach nawet po 3 latach od premiery?

Ciekawe, że zarówno w Destiny, jak i AH LCG standardowa liczba kart w decku to 30. Czyżby ukłon w stronę upraszczania rozgrywki? Wzorowanie się na Heartstone? Chęć zmniejszenia progu wejścia? Wprowadzenie zmian polepszających rozgrywkę? Wyciąganie wniosków na podstawie wieloletnich doświadczeń? Otwarcie się na masowego odbiorce? Chęć ułatwienia ludziom życia? Może wszystkiego po trochu?

Takie tam luźnie przemyślenia po północy.

[Darboh]

Takiem tak kieś nowinki
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/n ... assembled/

[Maxxx76]

Jak oni to robią, że człowiek nie chce kupić, a czyta i się napala

[Darboh]

Jak oni to robią, że człowiek nie chce kupić, a czyta i się napala

Jest na to jakiś lek albo terapia?

[Maxxx76]

Najpierw opierałem się FFG i starałem się nie kupować ich gier, ale to było dawno temu i nieprawda. Eldritch Horror, Czerwona Planeta, Runebound, SWArmada, Znak Starszych Bogów, trochę Władca Pierścieni LCG i X-wing, nawet Magię i Miecz kupiłem... A przede mna jeszcze AH LCG, Runewars Miniatures. Już się nawet specjalnie nie opieram
Dobrze, że z GW zerwali współpracę )) Chociaż teraz pewnie wyskoczą, ze swoją linią fantasy mocniej
A SW Destiny też kupię, bo z młodym chętnie w to zagram Dwa startery, ze dwa boostery i jak chwyci, to co miesiąc kolejny booster

[karawanken]

Taaaa ja już dawno przestałem się oszukiwać zwłaszcza jak zapowiedzieli polską wersję. Zacznę kupować teraz, zanim młode osiągną odpowiedni wiek będę miał sporą kolekcję. To się nazywa optymalizacja wydatków

[Kisun]

Nie podobają mi się te kostki. Jakieś takie odpustowe. Grafiki te same co w innych ich grach SW. Mechanika nie powala i chyba gdzieś już coś takiego widziałem Drożyzna i wyciąganie kasy a i pewnie wersja pl zostanie zarzucona w połowie. Tylko czemu też chcę? Hmm?

[Darboh]

Dalsze pitu pitu z zapowiedzi.
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/n ... e-force-1/