Mam lekkie wrażenie, że to trochę brzmi jak "planszowkowicze się nie znają". A tymczasem mam kilka Kill Tteamów, Space Marines na jakieś dwa tys. punktów, Eldarów na drugie tyle... razy dwa i jakieś rzeczy z innych armii tak dla samego malowania. Czyli jakieś parę tysięcy zł w modelach.
Cyel pisze: ↑03 lut 2023, 09:10 Dokładnie tak - różne grupy docelowe mają różne oczekiwania. Cytat w odpowiedzi na to co napisałem na Dakka:
Cyel 807638 11487112 null pisze:The boardgaming forum I frequent is almost unanimous that with such a price this game is going to be dead on arrival. That's the perspective of people outside the miniature wargaming ("why should I pay so much when I had Imperial Assault for a fraction of this price?")).Apple fox 807638 11487531 null pisze:Very different mindset for what people want from games, just have to look at some board games with loads of little cardboard markers, special dice and things.Geifer 807638 11487528 d05609b3a9618bc34fc349ecf9138590.jpg pisze:
No offense to boardgamers but I wouldn't heed the predictions of people who don't care what their game pieces look like and accept bent PVC laser swords if it saves them money. Without appreciation for the modeling and painting aspect of wargames they're missing a large part of the appeal, and therefore willingness to put up with higher prices. It's a different mindset.
You have to consider that someone like me won't spend less than six hours painting each model. Add some assembly and I'll get a hundred hours of fun out of the sixteen models in the core box before I even play my first game. That doesn't figure in the terrain that's in the box either. Dropping 150€ in one go isn't something I'd do without serious consideration, but objectively the entertainment per € ratio for miniatures compares favorably to a lot of other entertainment products and activities. Provided, of course, that the product actually fulfills your needs. If you slap on a quick paintjob because you want to start playing or if you only like half of the models in the box the price may be a lot less palatable.
Wargamers tend to shy away from all that.
But RPG players love there dice, and often have discussions of special ones.
Something that a lot of wargamers dislike as well, when even switching to a dice other than D6 for a game gets some wargamers all weird.
It’s the same as mini price above, I would rather pay more money for less minis if I like them, get the quality I desire and want to experiance the game as best, with the miniatures that represent it. Also we don’t get cheap warhammer, so that’s out :p
A i tak wciąż uważam, że nowy SW jest za drogi i u nas się nie przyjmie.